Not Gonna Happen 01 Apr 2009Posted by Jessa in Religion.
Tags: catholicism, pope, Religion
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The president of the Italian Catholic bishops’ conference wants us to knock off making fun of the pope.
My reply: no. Especially since the pope has demonstrated a keen ability to make inane, wrong, mock-worthy statements. How are we supposed to take seriously a person who claims that condoms will worsen the AIDS epidemic in Africa?
This one’s for you, Joey.
The Great Cracker Conflagration of 2008 12 Jul 2008Posted by Jessa in Religion.
Tags: bill donohue, catholicism, christianity, eucharist, pharyngula, pz myers, Religion
Regular readers of this blog (hi to all four of you) probably already know about this – PZ Myers has found himself in a bit of an internet uproar over a communion wafer.
A condensed timeline:
- A student at the University of Central Florida takes a consecrated communion wafer home with him. Much outrage ensues, including accusing said student of a “hate crime” and “kidnapping”, and e-mailed death threats.
- PZ writes about it, and includes a call for people to send him wafers to desecrate.
- Bill Donohue (of Catholic League fame) gets wind of it, and acts typically by issuing a press release calling for people to write to the University of Minnesota president to demand that PZ gets fired.
- PZ responds and fights back.
- Meanwhile, he’s getting his own batch of hate mail, some with death threats.
- The Catholic League issues another press release calling for extra security for Catholics at the upcoming Republican Convention in Minneapolis, despite the fact that Morris is 150 miles away from Minneapolis and PZ has not threatened anyone.
Whew. What drama.
I’m somewhat undecided about PZ’s pledge to desecrate a cracker. On one hand, I think it’s a fairly juvenile stunt. On the other hand, actions like his can open up a dialog (if somewhat heated) about important issues. Some of the most important insights I’ve had in my life have come from getting offended and then examining why I was offended.
But what I did find interesting was the thread that ran among the comments from those supporting the Catholic outrage. Most of them either implicitly or explicitly included the idea that an individual has a right to have their beliefs respected. Um, no. Your right to hold a belief should be respected, but the belief itself has no right to be respected. The idea of respecting beliefs sounds like a good one at first blush, but it’s totally unworkable. There are some sincerely held but genuinely silly beliefs out there. Anyone who has spent any time on the internet can come up with at least 5 examples off the top of their head. By the rationale of the “respect beliefs” argument, we must respect the belief that aliens built the Great Pyramids. Or that the moon landing was a hoax. Or that the US government was behind 9/11. There are people out there that believe these things just as deeply as Catholics believe that a priest can, with appropriate hand gestures and incantations, turn a wafer into the Body of Christ. See how respecting all beliefs just won’t work?
But the “respect beliefs” commenters don’t really believe that all beliefs should be respected. A great number of them are calling for PZ to desecrate a Koran instead. So apparently they have no problems with disrespecting the beliefs of Muslims. I guess “respect beliefs” really means “respect the beliefs with which I agree”.
Mmmm…I love the smell of hypocrisy.